0-60 time

[JX]

just out of interest,does anyone know the official CB-1 0-60 time?

thanks!

[ptlcb1]

I dont know the official time.  I can tell you this from seat of the pants(leathers) experience, that time will vary depending on what rpms you launch at.   

[JX]

  lol

was just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the 0-60 time.
i know the SUZUKI GS 500 is apparently 5 seconds 0-60 mph.
and that one is only a commuter parallel twin.
so the cb-1 should in theory be quicker than that being a parallel 4.
the short gearing lets it down here since it can only do 30 ish mph in 1st,
as supposed to the cbr400 rr wich can do 60 ish in 1st.

[clarkdw]

Dyno hp numbers from the CB-1 and the GS 500 are very very close. My personal experience riding in a group with several GS 500's is that the GS is quicker from a dead stop but loses in almost any roll-on. For me the CB-1 is a difficult bike to launch from stopped needing a LOT of rpm and slipping the clutch.
My drag racing attempts showed me that I am not willing to submit the bike to that kind of punishment very often. My times were extremely consistent at 13.8 with stock gearing and 14.25 with a 37 tooth rear sprocket. The CB-1 would likely be much slower with even taller gearing like the 400RR. With so little torque, you need the short gearing. The 400rr is designed as a road racer, not a commuter bike or a drag racer.

Short answer to your original question is that my guess would be it is very close to the GS 500 time with a good rider.

[JX]

thank you for the info clarkdw!
i'm very surprised that the gs is quicker
but you learn something every day.
those are certainly very decent 1/4 mile times!
i must say,i find the cb-1 quite torquey for a parallel 4.
mine pulls very nicely from about 3000-3.500 from standstill.
and i am 6'1'' and certainly no lightweight .
i never rev the bollocks of bikes ,because i don't really like highreving engines as a rule,nor am i used to them.
i usually have singles or v twins.

i do have my eye on the GS500 though!nice simple reliable bike.
i have missed a couple recently but will keep looking.

thanks again for the great answer!

[clarkdw]

As far as I am concerned the GS is a significant step down from the CB-1. It does not handle as well as the -1 and the fun factor is not near as high.
To really appreciate how well the CB-1 runs you need to learn to rev it. For drag racing, I launch at about 8,500-10,000 and slip the clutch to keep the engine well up in the power band. Shifting happens at about 500 rpm below redline to keep it at max acceleration.
Coming from an old english sportscar background I found it hard to rev the engine when I got my first Honda ( CRX with a DOHC vtec Japan spec engine) I finally lost my fear of high revs with it and when I got the CB-1 I didn't mind running it up to redline and the rev limiter at 14,500. Suck it up and let the little screamer rev. It becomes a different bike entirely north of 10,000 rpm.

[Lyrad]

i AGREE THE bike is an animal at the 10000rpms or higher!! the sound of a CB1 is no contest for a GS, the GS just looks weak!! the CB-1 looks and feels like a bigger big, The 4 cylinder is the best part. The engine runs way smoother.

[ptlcb1]

Granted I have a few more horses than a stock CB-1, but like clark said, if you launch it around 8-10 g's, you might think you are on another bike!  When racing, I launch around 8-9 grand.  With my body weight over the tank, I pretty much just dump the clutch.  I usually ride a wheelie, the front being about 12 to 18 inches off the ground, thru the first 2 shifts, which come pretty quick!  Those first two shifts are done without using the clutch.  Actually, all of my upshifts are done without using the clutch.  I just back out of the throttle a tiny bit. 

The CB-1 isnt very strong below 8 g's.  Its mid-range is very strong though.  I have an article that states the CB-1 even out performed the 72 bhp fzr600 in roll-on contests.  I have a few articles that are not posted in the section, "The Good, Bad and Ugly".  When I have the time, I will type them up for all to see. 

To get really good performance out of the CB-1, you must rev the crap out of it!  I would be more hesitant to do that on a bike that I just bought, not knowing its history.  I know the history of mine and the more I rev the balls out of it, the more it says, "yea bro! Lets go!!!  Sure, its a little 400, but dont let the small size fool ya! 

I will have to dig now and find my time sheets from the day I took 'lil fella' to the drag strip.  That surely was an eye opening experience!  First time I lauched it like I normally do at the race track, because of the awesome grip on a drag strip, the front end was almost at 12 o'clock, before I grabbed a handfull of clutch!  Not the smartest thing to do!  The front end slammed back down and my balls and the tank had an intimate moment!  Needless to say, I sat out for about an hour, before I was able to give it another go...

[clarkdw]

I will have to dig now and find my time sheets from the day I took 'lil fella' to the drag strip.  That surely was an eye opening experience!  First time I lauched it like I normally do at the race track, because of the awesome grip on a drag strip, the front end was almost at 12 o'clock, before I grabbed a handfull of clutch!  Not the smartest thing to do!  The front end slammed back down and my balls and the tank had an intimate moment!  Needless to say, I sat out for about an hour, before I was able to give it another go...

You owe me a keyboard and monitor cleaning.  Sprayed my coffee. BTDT Takes only one time to learn that important lesson.  I didn't do it with the CB-1 but I tried a similar launch style to what I had been using on the -1 when I first drag raced the ZX6R. It does not require 9k rpm at launch and is not nearly as easy to maintain the proper balance point on the clutch.

[91cb-1]

the suzuki gs 500 is like the honda dauville 750 reliable bike but boring as shit and looks club ugly. One major difference between the gs500 and the cb-1  is simply build quality. Gs was built as a cheap commuter bike in todays cheap subletting to outside companies however the cb-1 was built as a commuter with the option of revin the bollox off her on the track and havin a laugh and it was built by honda not some cheap chinese rust company. i wouldn't waste my time turning my head to look at a suzuki 500

[JX]

  YOU BUNCH OF NUTTERS! LOL
drag racing,mental 1/4  mile races,redlining the engine,clutchless gearchanges
abusing the poor little honda like that.
i'm sure the engine,gearbox,tyres and clutch will thank you for it,in the long run.
but it sounds like you are all having loads of fun in the meantime.
so GOOD ON YOU!

as for the GS500 i think it's a lovely looking naked bike.the engine doesn't look or sound
that good,true.and the built quality isn't the best but it's ample.
and reliability is allways top of the list for me 4 sure.
concerning the fun factor,sadly i haven't ridden one.
but i have done a lot of research on the GS and have read many reviews on them.
and no owner had a bad word to say about them and most of them commented,
that they had loads of fun riding them.
if one comes my way and i have enough cash(very doubtfull under the current loonatics in power),
i won't hesitate to buy it.

[ptlcb1]

My bad clark!     True story though!  My nephew was with me and he asked me if that hurt.  I could only manage to say to him, "Im good."  He was in charge of picking up my time sheets.  I told him the first run never counts for anything, its just a test run, so you can throw that one away.  He was a good nephew and did what he was told.  Needless to say, after the crash landing, I cruised the rest of the way down the strip.  I was surprised to see that there was no damaged to the front end! 

The rest of the day went much better.  It was an open day and the only other bike there was a 67 yr old guy on a 70ish KZ1000.   He and I paired up for the entire time.  He got a kick out of teaching me that day.  Honestly, I was clueless!  He laughed his ass off at my first attempt at a burnout!  And I will admit, it was pathetic!  After that run, he mentioned that it looked like I had the farts and a few of them were runny!  I asked him if he was a comedian before he retired!  Needless to say, we had a great time!  After that first run, he asked me what happen at the start?  I said, "what do you mean?  I saw the green light and I left!"  He just shook his head, then said, "son, there is no future in this for you.  If you leave when you see green, its too late.  Did you notice how far in front of you I was?"   I said, "well most times, a 1000 will do that to a 400 regardless of whose on them!  I know my math, pops!" 

Yea, we hit it off pretty good!    Thanks to him, it was a great experience! 

[Raid3n]

Haha on the sport tree always go on the yellow . There is only 0.400 before the green follows the yellow. So if you react to the yellow, you'll hit the green pretty square .

I'm going to love this bike once I get it running. I am no stranger to high rpm. I have a 1990 RX7 right now, I rev the tits off it when I get the chance haha. If you were getting 13.8 on the -1, I think I'm gonna like the bike . I get 13.9 in my car. 230whp and around 2900lbs.

[Daveontheedge]

Ha! I had an '86 RX7 and drove the crap out of it too!

[Raid3n]

haha if you thought the NA was fun you should try the turbo hahah