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« on: October 12, 2011, 08:59:07 AM »

Wondering what other rear shocks fit CB1 for 2nd hand cheap replacement, have seen other people say cbr900 shock fits ? if so which year ? any others  ?  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 09:56:16 AM »

Wondering what other rear shocks fit CB1 for 2nd hand cheap replacement, have seen other people say cbr900 shock fits ? if so which year ? any others  ?  Smiley
Some CBR shocks fit, but the spring rate is all to cock, so it is not an ideal replacement. You would need to fit your original spring back on. I do have a 180kg 7" spring, that might fit to sort the spring rate out, but you'll need to compress the spring to swap them.

I don't think a definite compatible replacement was ever found.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 11:11:59 AM »

oh ok, if ever needed new shock are the Hagon ones ok ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 12:07:46 PM »

oh ok, if ever needed new shock are the Hagon ones ok ?
They are good but soft. I would ask them to swap the spring for a 190kg spring. Although the soft spring would be fine with original forks I reckon, just felt far too soft with my updated front.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 02:50:08 PM »

I have a new Hagon with uprated spring for my 240 lbs and it is a fantastic shock!  Best $500 I've spent on the bike.

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 07:02:51 PM »

I've been a bit confused about this myself.   I am used to bikes being way undersprung in stock form, but the CB-1 actually seems OK with my 195 pound weight.  If anything it's a small bit harsh.  It surely isn't under damped.\

Do others find the stock rear suspension is pretty good in stock form?  I am used to buying a bike and imminently trying to fix the weak mushy suspension.

What, if any, problems are you trying to fix with a suspension swap?

From the charts I have looked at only the 900RR and, I think, the CBR F2/3 have the right length and stroke, but they are older shocks that would likely need to be refreshed anyhow.  Nothing has the right spring rate as almost all modern bikes use a linkage.

Oil damping in shocks is used to control the motion in the suspension so spring rate is a pretty good indicator of how much energy will need to be absorbed by the damping system.   You can't just "add clicks" to fix a change from, for example, a 600# spring to an 1100# spring (CB-1 territory).  What I am saying is that the 900RR or CBR F2 shock with a stiffer spring on it will be under damped and likely be worse than a good low miles CB-1 shock.

I think some VFR bikes used a similar length/stroke/stiffness shock but those shocks were awful.  If you could find an older VFR that had its shock replaced with a Fox or Penske you'd have an actual improvement over the stock shock shock which is pretty good for a stock shock IMHO.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 09:27:37 PM »

I found the stock spring on my rear shock was satisfactory if set on the stiffest setting, but the damping was seriously lacking.  The rear end would pogo on rough patches of road, something that never happens now with the Hagon.  Between the adjustable spring setting and the adjustable damping control, the Hagon allows you to setup your shock perfectly for your weight and riding style.  Definitely worth the money if you're looking for a great shock.

Eric
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