GP/Reverse Shift

[assquatch20]

Hi, new guy here. Bringing home a CB-1 tomorrow.

Anyhow, I was wondering if any of you guys have switched to a "GP" or reverse shift style, and what was needed to do it with this bike. I'm no racer, so the advantages aren't much right now, but I'd like to have it on this bike.

Anyhow, can you just flip the linkage on this bike or do you need a longer rod?

[guntherrex]

haven't done it, but from the look of it I think you can reverse the clamp on the shift axle for a reversed pattern

[Drewski]

What would the point be

[assquatch20]

What would the point be

More than anything, not dragging your foot out of a hard left looking to upshift. There are a couple drawbacks but most people that shift this way say they wouldn't go back.

[91cb-1]

What would the point be

More than anything, not dragging your foot out of a hard left looking to upshift. There are a couple drawbacks but most people that shift this way say they wouldn't go back.

Easy solution to this problem, be in the correct gear comin into the corner, Simple solution. My first bike was a 100 cc 2 stroke with the reverse shifting and it was the biggest pain in the Ass, not withstanding the point that when you go to have a go on anyone else's bike or take a bike for a test drive your going to be slamming the bike down a gear at the red line looking to upshift, this could kick the tail out and potentially cause yourself some damage.

[assquatch20]

What would the point be

More than anything, not dragging your foot out of a hard left looking to upshift. There are a couple drawbacks but most people that shift this way say they wouldn't go back.

Easy solution to this problem, be in the correct gear comin into the corner, Simple solution. My first bike was a 100 cc 2 stroke with the reverse shifting and it was the biggest pain in the Ass, not withstanding the point that when you go to have a go on anyone else's bike or take a bike for a test drive your going to be slamming the bike down a gear at the red line looking to upshift, this could kick the tail out and potentially cause yourself some damage.

I won't deny that it can cause some serious damage if you get it wrong, but it has been immensely popular in racing. There must be some performance advantage.

Typically you would downshift coming into a corner, so if it's a left and you're already leaning, that's a weakness for GP shift as your boot will be low. This delays how early you can lean in.

But coming out of a turn, you don't want to upright yourself too quickly I understand, thus you ideally shift before you're out of your lean. This is where reverse shifting seems to advance.

Either way, a handful of great racers have boot sliders and get free pairs all the time, and so they stick to standard. I wouldn't want to risk my ankle or wear out a brand new pair of boots in a month because I upshift in a lean.

Additionally, having used reverse shift a little, I can say it's a bit easier on the balance as tapping your foot feels a bit more natural than pulling. If you're leaned waaay over, even on a right-hander, moving your foot under the shifter too quick can get your balance off.

[Daveontheedge]

No offence meant here, but if you are not racing and are capable of leaning the bike over to MGP limits, what are you doing on your CB1? I personally have a hard time believing you would ever need to have the bike over that far and if you do, things have or are going really poorly for you.

There are a couple of members on here who do race their -1's, for you guys that do, have you ever had it over far enough that shifting is a problem.

As 91cb-1 mentioned, being in the correct gear for the corner would be a much greater benefit.

[assquatch20]

No offence meant here, but if you are not racing and are capable of leaning the bike over to MGP limits, what are you doing on your CB1? I personally have a hard time believing you would ever need to have the bike over that far and if you do, things have or are going really poorly for you.

There are a couple of members on here who do race their -1's, for you guys that do, have you ever had it over far enough that shifting is a problem.

As 91cb-1 mentioned, being in the correct gear for the corner would be a much greater benefit.

No offense taken. I live in a pretty curvy area and it's not too uncommon to scrape pegs here. Obviously it's not a daily thing, but I have my days. Of course, this was on a smaller enduro bike, so it may be totally unnecessary or improbable to get that much lean on a CB-1. I'll find out, I guess.

[91cb-1]

In terms of scraping pegs yes it does happen i've done it more than once, i actually did it every morning on my route to work and particularly looked forward to taking that particular corner every morning, i have rear set adjusters that have moved my pegs up and back so you certainly can get enough lean on a cb-1 but there is no need to go to such drastic measures as reversing the shifting

[assquatch20]

Either way I think it's got more weight than I care to lean yet, as the drive home was pretty thrilling. It is amazingly clean to me for the years. Have a look.

[91cb-1]

very clean looking. What are you used to driving, if you don't mind me asking, that the cb-1 seems heavy to you? Not being a prick here honestly when i upgraded it was heavy for me too, just wondering what you're coming from. it is a lovely looking example.

[assquatch20]

very clean looking. What are you used to driving, if you don't mind me asking, that the cb-1 seems heavy to you? Not being a prick here honestly when i upgraded it was heavy for me too, just wondering what you're coming from. it is a lovely looking example.

I come from a TW200 as the main ride. Fun little bike, but I didn't get to do with it what it was meant for enough. I've handled heavier bikes than the CB-1, and I knew this was going to be heavier than my usual, but you just can't tell until you're on it. Takes a little more 'oomph' to get a tight turn from it. Won't be able to throw this one on the old dirtbike stand.

Speaking of that, does anyone know a good brand for rear wheel stands in the US that fit up okay? I'd like to keep the pressure off the sidestand when it's sitting a long time, and it seems the centerstand has been removed. I'll need to grab one of those.

[Daveontheedge]

Nice looking ride!

[91cb-1]

As mentioned in other topics if your bike is a california spec then you will not be able to fit centre stand, there's a few different posts about that up. as for paddock stands i use a universal paddock stand that works great.