My Cb-1 Race bike

[ptlcb1]

The original pics I had on here were linked from another CB-1 site that no longer exists, so I put up a few new ones.

[mrbones]

Here are the photos. I linked them in for you. NICE!!

[ptlcb1]

Thanks again!   

[REgina CB-1]

Nice work.

[clarkdw]

Very nice bike.


I noticed that you have no preload adjusters on the forks. Do you find that they are unnecessary? I realize that you can shim the springs internally but that is a lot more trouble. Do you pretty much race at one place all the time or is the CB-1 not very sensitive to preload adjustments?

[ptlcb1]

The front suspension has the following mods.  Race Tech Springs .95s,  Race Tech fork emulators, and a heavier oil.  I had a suspension shop set them up according to my weight and the fact that I road race.  They did a great job!  I weight 200lbs without my gear on.  The majority of the time, I race at one track.  I have been to two other tracks.  I have complete confidence in my front end!  Where I put it is where it stays!  Its like its on rails!  I have never felt the need to try any other set up with front end.  I continue to better my fastest lap times, so if it anit broke...   

I also wanted to keep the bike as light as possible.  That is why I didnt go with a dual disk set-up.    

[clarkdw]

I think you are absolutely right to stick with the single disk. I know that amazingly enough to most people the faster you go on the race track, the less brake you use. The CB-1's single disk provides more braking certainly than the stock suspension can deal with.

The reason I asked was that the front end on mine is definitely the limiting factor in the handling. When ridden really hard the bike pushes. May be a factor of tires (Pirelli Diable street) or the soft springs and shocks. The point at which the push happens is at a pretty high speed but it just makes me a little uncomfortable as I get scared to feed in any more countersteer as I am  nervous about completely losing the front end and low siding. I suppose the alternative of losing the rear is probably even worse.

Maybe this summer I will be able to get at the job of reworking the front end with springs and emulators.

[ptlcb1]

The single brake up front is plenty strong!  I have only added steel braided lines and I always ran the stock Honda brake pads.  The were very expensive but well worth it!  Unfortunately, Honda does not sell them anymore, at least thats what my local dealership told me.  I am still moving my brake marker closer to the corner, and my front end has never let me down.  That single disk got me 4th place at the WERA Grand Nationals Finals at Road Atlanta back in 2004.   

I would suggest going with heavier springs, Race Tech emulators, and a heavier oil.  For hard riding, the stock springs are just not strong enough.  I run Pirelli Supercorsa race tires and they are awesome!  My bike only sees the track so I have no idea how the Diablos street tires are.  I know you know this, but make sure your tire pressures are adjusted according to the weather temp.  Street tires are made harder than track tires, so if you went down 1 or 2 psi you would build up more heat in them.  I run 30psi in my front and 29psi in the rear.     

[dummyracer36]

this late in this thread, but the guy at youre honda dealership is a twit!!! or too lazy to bother looking in the HondaLine catalog   heres the # for the brakes STILL available # 451A0-MN8-670

[ptlcb1]

I would say laziness would be the right word for that guy!  Thanks a ton!  The stock pads have worked great for me on the track!  Happy days are here again!!! 

Im also working at getting some more pics of my race bike on here.  I used the link to that other CB-1 website that unfortunately is no longer functioning.  Too bad because there was some good info on that site...

[dummyracer36]

anytime ptlcb1.... if your local dealer wont order em for ya, i have 2 sets left on the shelf, althou... i'd HIGHLY recommend the EBC HH pads instead..... and speaking of you spending money on better parts (lol) what will really make your bike faster is a carbon tank..... i'll send ya some pics.

[ptlcb1]

There have been two different occasions when I had to use another brand of brake pads.  One was EBC's but im not sure if it was the HH pads.  I just didnt have the confidence in them as I do with the stock pads.  It may be more mental than anything else, because I am so use to the stock pads.  Whichever ones I decide to get next, I will order them from you.

That reminds me of the time I wanted to choke the guy behind the parts counter towards the end of my 2nd year racing!  I needed new pads for the last round of that season and I had to beat this one rider to end up 2nd overall in the class.  I ordered the stock pads from my local dealership.  When I ordered, the first red flag that I chose not to recognize, was the guy didnt even know what a CB-1 was... When he finally pulled up the bike on the computer, he was, lets say intrigued, that it only had a single brake disk up front.  This was surely red flag number 2!!!  My only concern was that the pads were ordered and that I could pick them up Friday after work.  I would put them on Friday evening, then head to the track Sat. morning.

I go after work Friday to pick them up.  Same guy is there.  He was excited for me because we had talk about racing while he was looking up the bike.  He goes to the back and comes out with "1 BRAKE PAD!!!"  I looked at him, puzzled and asked him, where is the other pad???  He said to me, your bike only has a single disk in the front, right???  Amazingly, I controlled myself as adrenaline shot all through my body like a hit of nitrous!  How I kept myself from choking him until he got light headed, I have no idea!  There were many people in line, so I decided to make this guy look as stupid as he really was! 

I asked him if he ever owned a 10 speed bicycle.  He said yes.  I asked him if he remembered what the brakes looked like on that 10 speed?  He had to think for a second, but said yes.  I asked him, that if he had to buy those 2 little brakes pads, one for each side of the rim, and the guy you ordered them from, only ordered you one of them, would you be pissed???  Before he could answer, I told him to go and get his manager.  I then gave them both many choice words and phrases!  Then I turned the computer screen around, that was on the counter and asked the manager to pull up my account history.  He did so.  Once he saw the all the business that I have given them, he tried to make things better.  TOO LATE, THAT TRAIN HAD ALREADY LEFT THE STATION!  I made him delete my customer history, and told him my business will be done elsewhere!  Of course this is the PG-13 version!  Freakin idiots!!!   It also did help that, for whatever reason, Honda did not sell the pads as a set.  But he should have known this!

Please do send pics of your carbon fiber tank.  As of now, I plan on racing as much of my WERA region as possible next year and qualify for the Grand National Finals again!  Back in 2004, in the "D" classes, the Aprilia 250s dominated.  I did have great battles with a guy on a Ducati 750ss.  Last year, I saw that Duc 800s were the dominant bikes along with I believe that Aprilia 550 Super Motard bike.  They did increase the engine size of an inline liquid cooled 4 to 490cc.  That is why that TTS big bore kit is on my mind!  But the other part of the power equation is to get my bike as light as possible.  Carbon fiber does help in this area!  lol 

[dummyracer36]

for a halfwit, the microfiche does show the pads separately,  45105-MN8-671       PAD A, A     $19.45       $19.45 
     45106-MN8-671      PAD B, B    $25.77      $25.77 
but.... i guess he failed to notice that there are 2

[nikosred]

I would like to ask you what tire sizes you use on fast cornering. I am planning to rebuild my stock suspension and create a racing set up. Is there any solution for the rear absorber except heavy oil and spacers? I would also like to ask how much did you lower the frond end if lowered and how much did you lower the center of gravity and the clip ons... Please help because under steering became very scary as I turn faster and faster... I fell off once when I was completely rookie. Lowsiding.... at 80km/h...

[ptlcb1]

Front is a 110/70-17 and the rear is a 150/60-17, Pirelli Dragon Supercorsas Pro tires. 

You are looking for a racing set-up.  My first question to you is, are you riding on a race track or on the street? 

Heavier oil and stiffer springs up front along with Race Tech Gold Valve Emulators.  A 1993-1995 CBR900RR rear shock will fit on the rear end with no problem.  Best to have a suspension shop re-valve it for your weight.  I will have to measure the distance from the top of the fork tubes, to the top of my clip-ons.