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Title: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 03:16:14 AM
SPOILER ALERT AND LINK TO NEW THREAD
The issue resolved on it's own but has since returned 8 months later. Since this thread went off topic toward the end I started a new one here http://www.hondacb1.org/forum/index.php/topic,5612.0.html

Okay wrench heads, I hope I came to the right place. It turns out my bike doesn't like to lean Left. Let me explain....

I just purchased a CB-1 with 10k miles. I am 3rd owner. Original owner was a dealer in NV and second owner bought for wife but she never rode it. He spiffed it up and sold it to me. Any ways it's cherry and I want to ride it.

During the sale we started the bike on the center stand. Seller also said the bike took a while to warm up. After 3-4 minutes of idling on choke at 3k rpm, he slide the choke off and kept the engine running. Maybe a little rough. I took it for a test ride. All was good enough so we closed the deal.

I went to start it today and found it a little difficult to get going  :(

With choke on I have to work the throttle a little to keep the motor idling. It will idle steady for the most part.

Now imagine straddling the idling bike & holding it vertical. If I tilt the bike to the left say just 3-4 degrees from vertical (no handle bar turning so confident it is not cable binding) the rpms drop instantly. No lag. I can use the throttle to keep it running. Go vertical it recovers. Leaning to the right no problem.  ??? Hmm, who would have thought to start the bike on its side stand. :-\ To be fair, seller tuned it at 4,500' and I am at sea level.

Seller stated he rebuilt the carbs. Carb insulators are original and seller said he couldn't find replacements so reinstalled and used RTV to help "seal" them. Not ideal but not crazy.

Anyways, what should I look into? Is there to mix up carb parts?  i.e. on my NC35 carbs 1&3 and 2&4 have different bowls and emulsion tubes. If it is float bowl setting would that affect the RPMs so dramatically and immediately and why when only tilting to one side and not the other?

Any ideas or guidance would be much appreciated  ;D


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: a_morti on July 18, 2017, 04:26:05 AM
Welcome to the fold! We definitely need pics of your -1 and the 35!

It may be worth checking his work on the carbs. If any seals weren't replaced (some are sure to be nla) then look to these guys: http://litetek.co/Carb_Kit_Honda_CB1_NC27.html
Tried and recommended.

I wouldn't want to trust slightly leaking boots. There are now some cheapy replicas on ebay, could be better.
Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232342370235
Not tried but worth a look.

The air screws may need tweaking. Should be 2.25 turns out at sea level i believe. Best check me in the manual though.

The idle seems quite high so a lot of guys set it lower. Should be 1300rpm +/-100, it won't be happy lower.

If he's rebuilt the carbs they may need balancing.


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: Paulbwatertownct on July 18, 2017, 06:48:14 AM
I recently went through this process as well, got mine running good, let it sit for a few months, then wouldn't run right again. Ended up that the pilots are so small that they clog from sitting for even a short period of time due to the quality of gas.

The Chinese carb insulators that Morti pointed out should be installed as the originals will be rock hard and RTV is not a solution. The tabs are not a perfect fit but they work and will seal well. 

Most likely the pilots are clogged from sitting w ethanol gas. Clean them up or you can get the recommended 38 pilots and 108 mains from Sudco or Sirius Consolidated (S.C.I.). Stock are 35/105. FYI the carbs are the same as those used on the original Honda CBR600F1 Hurricane, 87-90.

Morti, thanks for the link to LiteTek, that site may come in handy as I start my CBR-F2 project.

What is everyone using for fuel stabilizator these day? Sea foam, Belray, Stabile, something else?? I've recently started using Belray but too soon to tell.


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 12:28:45 PM
Thanks for the insight and quick replies. Yes, Litetek are good. I just rebuilt my NC35 carbs using the kit. Boy, was that quite the introduction into carb rebuilding for a newbie. Took me a loooong time but they are good to go (I think!) and learned tons. Have yet to install them to the bike as I have many other items to square off first. That bike sat improperly stored for 7 years with fuel in the tank before I bought it.

I got the CB-1 to put around on but seems I may have another project  >:(

Now that I understand carb design (at least what the bits inside are) I can't explain why leaning a bike to the side would affect idle. It's a day and night response. How would tilting affect float action? Floats set too high so tilting makes it shut off the float valve? If so, would you expect idle response to be so direct and immediate? I would expect some delay.


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 12:40:02 PM
Photos of my new CB-1. BTW is there a way to post higher resolution photos? I've downsized to 75kb(!) and I have problems posting. A passive auto-resizing app would be handy.


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 12:40:37 PM
Right side


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 12:41:12 PM
left side.

EDIT
That's the seller in the photo BTW not me ;)
Seller drove 5 hours one way to deliver it. Nice!


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 12:42:10 PM
Speedometer/odometer


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
I'm getting the hang of posting photos


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: VintageHunter on July 18, 2017, 02:49:20 PM
question:
why is the title of the thread "New bike a Republican?"......I'm a bit confused.
Can the OP elaborate on this a bit?


Disregard the question...."doesn't like to lean left".........I get it now.



Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: ModerateFkr on July 18, 2017, 04:14:58 PM
RVFRick, please forgive me but I've smiled all the way through your first posts here. No malice intended of course, but either your (comic) timing is impeccable, or you read the most recent posts where my new buddy VintageHunter and I are doing our best impression of a Bill Hicks skit in which I'm sure he will be please to know he's Jack Pallance ;).

You've also convinced me not to paint my CB-1 red. In the UK red is associated with the left, as it is internationally, but even though mine is a Japanese model, I'm not taking any risks. ;)

My theory on your problem is that something that moves, or shouldn't move but is, is somehow cutting either the fuel or the power. Copper wire hardens and fatigues over time. But if something in one of the carbs is loose, that might be the problem. Is it running on all four cylinders properly? It won't be the fuel line. The float chambers hold several minutes of tickover fuel.



Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 05:35:20 PM
RVFRick, please forgive me but I've smiled all the way through your first posts here. No malice intended of course, but either your (comic) timing is impeccable, or you read the most recent posts where my new buddy VintageHunter and I are doing our best impression of a Bill Hicks skit in which I'm sure he will be please to know he's Jack Pallance ;).

You've also convinced me not to paint my CB-1 red. In the UK red is associated with the left, as it is internationally, but even though mine is a Japanese model, I'm not taking any risks. ;)

My theory on your problem is that something that moves, or shouldn't move but is, is somehow cutting either the fuel or the power. Copper wire hardens and fatigues over time. But if something in one of the carbs is loose, that might be the problem. Is it running on all four cylinders properly? It won't be the fuel line. The float chambers hold several minutes of tickover fuel.



Gotta keep smiling when untangling a mess  :)

My bike is blue which reinforces my suspicions  ;D

The bike has only 10k miles so I doubt any sort of metal wire fatigue.

Tickover fuel, I like that term and your theory. Something moves and ever so slightly but is obvious.

Can't hurt for me to ask the previous owner.

I dread having to pull the tank and carbs after going thru that exercise on my other bike. I want to try all external treatments before resorting to surgery.

Do the CB-1's have CV carbs?


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: spacetiger on July 18, 2017, 05:49:31 PM
Thanks for the insight and quick replies. Yes, Litetek are good. I just rebuilt my NC35 carbs using the kit. Boy, was that quite the introduction into carb rebuilding for a newbie. Took me a loooong time but they are good to go (I think!) and learned tons. Have yet to install them to the bike as I have many other items to square off first. That bike sat improperly stored for 7 years with fuel in the tank before I bought it.

I got the CB-1 to put around on but seems I may have another project  >:(

Now that I understand carb design (at least what the bits inside are) I can't explain why leaning a bike to the side would affect idle. It's a day and night response. How would tilting affect float action? Floats set too high so tilting makes it shut off the float valve? If so, would you expect idle response to be so direct and immediate? I would expect some delay.

RVFRRICK,

What are you using to post pics?


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: VintageHunter on July 18, 2017, 05:50:40 PM
I'd like to know too cause "photosuckit" is dead to me.
Let us know please.
Thanks for the insight and quick replies. Yes, Litetek are good. I just rebuilt my NC35 carbs using the kit. Boy, was that quite the introduction into carb rebuilding for a newbie. Took me a loooong time but they are good to go (I think!) and learned tons. Have yet to install them to the bike as I have many other items to square off first. That bike sat improperly stored for 7 years with fuel in the tank before I bought it.

I got the CB-1 to put around on but seems I may have another project  >:(

Now that I understand carb design (at least what the bits inside are) I can't explain why leaning a bike to the side would affect idle. It's a day and night response. How would tilting affect float action? Floats set too high so tilting makes it shut off the float valve? If so, would you expect idle response to be so direct and immediate? I would expect some delay.

RVFRRICK,

What are you using to post pics?


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: RVFRick on July 18, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
I document most of my work so I have lots of photos. Too many. Anyways, I organize by areas of interest and project. In each master folder I create a "Low-Res" folder.

You need a PC to do this (wish Mac could do it) for this "hack":
1 Select your photos for downsizing (you can multi-select as many as you want).

2 Right click > Send To > Mail recipient. This launches a dialogue window Attach files
.
3 Select picture size "Smaller" or whatever will create file size you desire. Experiment as your results may vary.

4 Select Attach (launches MS Office Outlook for me)

5 Select all the attachment files in the email that Outlook has started and Ctrl+X (cut to clipboard) or drag to the "Low Res folder" you should have already made.

6 Now go back to your forum post and select and attach the appropriate downsized photo you just created. Done.

BTW I haven't been able to post more than 1 photo at a time to this forum even though each image is under the imposed 128kb limit. It might add the size of all photos (dumb).


Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: ModerateFkr on July 18, 2017, 08:41:32 PM
I document most of my work so I have lots of photos. Too many. Anyways, I organize by areas of interest and project. In each master folder I create a "Low-Res" folder.

You need a PC to do this (wish Mac could do it) for this "hack":
1 Select your photos for downsizing (you can multi-select as many as you want).

2 Right click > Send To > Mail recipient. This launches a dialogue window Attach files
.
3 Select picture size "Smaller" or whatever will create file size you desire. Experiment as your results may vary.

4 Select Attach (launches MS Office Outlook for me)

5 Select all the attachment files in the email that Outlook has started and Ctrl+X (cut to clipboard) or drag to the "Low Res folder" you should have already made.

6 Now go back to your forum post and select and attach the appropriate downsized photo you just created. Done.

BTW I haven't been able to post more than 1 photo at a time to this forum even though each image is under the imposed 128kb limit. It might add the size of all photos (dumb).

That's a very handy tip RVFRick. And you've posted nice pics.

You can do something similar on a Mac using Preview. I know it works individually. You click Save as in the menu bar and select the file size.

Sadly I'm only able to get on the net via my iPhone right now, and every photo is always too big. It might be possible to email each shot to myself as a smaller file, then import it back into my albums...! These sites are really all about the ads, so they're limiting their server bandwidth to users to allow the ads to do their thing uninterrupted. Other sites are much much worse. All newspaper sites are criminally sluggish - all due to the ads loading!

Anyway, have you tried reproducing your issue by moving or pressing on any suspect parts?

The point I was making about copper is that it ages. Also, damp can cause corision where copper wire connects to brass, creating a dry joint.

Have a look at your side stand kill switch. It's whole life is lived in the road splash, and every drop of water that ever fell on the bike - ended up down there somewhere eventually.

Plus, your side stand has mass which might move as you hint you're going to vote for the Dems...!;)



Title: Re: New bike a Republican?
Post by: spacetiger on July 18, 2017, 09:56:10 PM
I document most of my work so I have lots of photos. Too many. Anyways, I organize by areas of interest and project. In each master folder I create a "Low-Res" folder.

You need a PC to do this (wish Mac could do it) for this "hack":
1 Select your photos for downsizing (you can multi-select as many as you want).

2 Right click > Send To > Mail recipient. This launches a dialogue window Attach files
.
3 Select picture size "Smaller" or whatever will create file size you desire. Experiment as your results may vary.

4 Select Attach (launches MS Office Outlook for me)

5 Select all the attachment files in the email that Outlook has started and Ctrl+X (cut to clipboard) or drag to the "Low Res folder" you should have already made.

6 Now go back to your forum post and select and attach the appropriate downsized photo you just created. Done.

BTW I haven't been able to post more than 1 photo at a time to this forum even though each image is under the imposed 128kb limit. It might add the size of all photos (dumb).

Thanks Rick


Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: RVFRick on July 21, 2017, 02:08:33 AM
I went to start up my bike today. Full choke, push starter, started right up. Revs rose to 3k and I kept her there for 10 seconds. Tilted left, no change. WTH!?! Tried again. Steady idle. Tilted further to and fro trying to get 'er to stumble but she'd have none of it.

I realized the fuel cock was OFF so turned to ON and repeated motions. No change. After a minute or so on choke I saw the temp gauge bump so I started to ease off the choke to 50%. Idled fine. More rocking, etc. and no strange symptoms.

Popped open gas cap to see if there would be any change (vacuum maybe, who knows?). Nada. Lastly, set fuel cock to RES and no inking of change. Choke off after about 90 seconds. Idle settled to about 1200-1300.

Go figure, the demon has been exorcised! ;D At least for now. ::)

I rev'ed the engine for a few more minutes to see if any stumbling would occur. Nope, she purrs like a kitten. Well I'd like to claim I fixed the problem but I did absolutely nothing. If condition changes I will update y'all. Thanks for everyone's efforts.


Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: spacetiger on July 21, 2017, 02:43:52 AM
could have been bad gas from the tank?


Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: ModerateFkr on July 21, 2017, 05:38:50 AM
I went to start up my bike today. Full choke, push starter, started right up. Revs rose to 3k and I kept her there for 10 seconds. Tilted left, no change. WTH!?! Tried again. Steady idle. Tilted further to and fro trying to get 'er to stumble but she'd have none of it.

I realized the fuel cock was OFF so turned to ON and repeated motions. No change. After a minute or so on choke I saw the temp gauge bump so I started to ease off the choke to 50%. Idled fine. More rocking, etc. and no strange symptoms.

Popped open gas cap to see if there would be any change (vacuum maybe, who knows?). Nada. Lastly, set fuel cock to RES and no inking of change. Choke off after about 90 seconds. Idle settled to about 1200-1300.

Go figure, the demon has been exorcised! ;D At least for now. ::)

I rev'ed the engine for a few more minutes to see if any stumbling would occur. Nope, she purrs like a kitten. Well I'd like to claim I fixed the problem but I did absolutely nothing. If condition changes I will update y'all. Thanks for everyone's efforts.

Combover Syndrome. The GOP will be announcing a cure any day now...? ;)

But seriously RVFRick, if Spacetiger is right, maybe some dirt was lodged in one of the jets and it flopped over as your CB-1 had momentary thoughts of how Sanders was done in by the DNC!

I realise that being a Brit I'm not supposed to be up on such matters, but my geopolitical radar extends from Washington to Moscow, Tel Aviv to Beiging. Old habits die hard. It's just UK politics that seem so boring and irrelevant these days. Dirty fuel/dirty money all originate in the same place...!

Plus, I notice that tank rust is a common problem on CB-1s. This is due to the fact that the filler caps don't seal properly. I found shitloads of road dirt in the top section of my Japanese model, and a smurf tank I bought was infested with red rust throughout the bottom half. There were big flakes slushing around in the fuel residue. These are both carb killers.

The PO broke up a beautiful low Km bike because he couldn't solve the problem. He stripped the carbs multiple times - yet failed to cure the tank. The tank filter was also split, suggesting someone had tried to solve the problem at some point.

I remember when it was not only possible, but not uncommon to spot someone repairing a motorcycle on the roadside. I even saw a guy stripping his carb one day. It was a British single of course. Now, I have to remove the rank and airbox to gain half decent access to the spark plugs! The compression test is going to be an even more interesting challenge.

Many design choices are influenced by stylistic demands. A heavy steel perimeter is clearly prettier than a cradle (and represents a lesson from history, as well as a stage in the superbike learning cruve), but is is any better than what Fritz Egli did for the Honda CB750 in 1974?



Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: VintageHunter on July 21, 2017, 11:07:32 AM
perhaps the whole "rust in tank" issues also have a lot to do with where in the world you live.
Doesn't it rain all the time in the UK? isn't it always "muggy and dreary" there? Here where I live, I've never seen a tank with rust in it unless it's by the beach or comes from, well....the UK.

I'm sure the seals on the tank were "supposed" to work fine under 'normal weather environmental' conditions but in places where it's high levels of humidity, not sure materials were made to operate properly and be maintained properly in those places.

I lived in South Florida for most of my young/early adult life.....and everything............"I MEAN EVERYTHING" there had mold, mildew, rust, corrosion issues....why? Because there's too much moisture in the air and materials such as rubber and metal don't like that too much.

Just my opinion but you know what they say..."with my opinion and 75cents you can buy a pack of gum".
I went to start up my bike today. Full choke, push starter, started right up. Revs rose to 3k and I kept her there for 10 seconds. Tilted left, no change. WTH!?! Tried again. Steady idle. Tilted further to and fro trying to get 'er to stumble but she'd have none of it.

I realized the fuel cock was OFF so turned to ON and repeated motions. No change. After a minute or so on choke I saw the temp gauge bump so I started to ease off the choke to 50%. Idled fine. More rocking, etc. and no strange symptoms.

Popped open gas cap to see if there would be any change (vacuum maybe, who knows?). Nada. Lastly, set fuel cock to RES and no inking of change. Choke off after about 90 seconds. Idle settled to about 1200-1300.

Go figure, the demon has been exorcised! ;D At least for now. ::)

I rev'ed the engine for a few more minutes to see if any stumbling would occur. Nope, she purrs like a kitten. Well I'd like to claim I fixed the problem but I did absolutely nothing. If condition changes I will update y'all. Thanks for everyone's efforts.

Combover Syndrome. The GOP will be announcing a cure any day now...? ;)

But seriously RVFRick, if Spacetiger is right, maybe some dirt was lodged in one of the jets and it flopped over as your CB-1 had momentary thoughts of how Sanders was done in by the DNC!

I realise that being a Brit I'm not supposed to be up on such matters, but my geopolitical radar extends from Washington to Moscow, Tel Aviv to Beiging. Old habits die hard. It's just UK politics that seem so boring and irrelevant these days. Dirty fuel/dirty money all originate in the same place...!

Plus, I notice that tank rust is a common problem on CB-1s. This is due to the fact that the filler caps don't seal properly. I found shitloads of road dirt in the top section of my Japanese model, and a smurf tank I bought was infested with red rust throughout the bottom half. There were big flakes slushing around in the fuel residue. These are both carb killers.

The PO broke up a beautiful low Km bike because he couldn't solve the problem. He stripped the carbs multiple times - yet failed to cure the tank. The tank filter was also split, suggesting someone had tried to solve the problem at some point.

I remember when it was not only possible, but not uncommon to spot someone repairing a motorcycle on the roadside. I even saw a guy stripping his carb one day. It was a British single of course. Now, I have to remove the rank and airbox to gain half decent access to the spark plugs! The compression test is going to be an even more interesting challenge.

Many design choices are influenced by stylistic demands. A heavy steel perimeter is clearly prettier than a cradle (and represents a lesson from history, as well as a stage in the superbike learning cruve), but is is any better than what Fritz Egli did for the Honda CB750 in 1974?




Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: ModerateFkr on July 21, 2017, 01:48:54 PM
perhaps the whole "rust in tank" issues also have a lot to do with where in the world you live.
Doesn't it rain all the time in the UK? isn't it always "muggy and dreary" there? Here where I live, I've never seen a tank with rust in it unless it's by the beach or comes from, well....the UK.

Possibly, but despite the fact that the UK is an island nation, or perhaps more accurately, a disunited kingdom of islands, the weather does actually vary a great deal from area to area. Weather modification tends to be the predominant cause of the low overcast gloom of which you speak. Plus, Japan is also an island nation that has its fair share of rain.

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I'm sure the seals on the tank were "supposed" to work fine under 'normal weather environmental' conditions but in places where it's high levels of humidity, not sure materials were made to operate properly and be maintained properly in those places.

Are you? If you look at the design it's actually wide open to the elements at all times. Whilst the hinged fuel cap seals the neck adequately via the spring loaded rubber washer, there's a significant gap all around the hinged locking cap and ring that's screwed to the tank. Now this wouldn't matter if there wasn't a drain off hole in the recess that houses the neck, for any fuel splashed outside the neck in that recess, to drain into the tank.

THAT'S how the water is capable of getting in unimpeded. I'm guessing quantity of rain, general humidity, average temperature and how often bikes are ridden and stored in the rain all also play a part, as does the amount of water there is in the local fuel.

The way I figured this out was greatly assisted by my discovery of a very unhealthy layer of road dust in both my tanks. But in order to prove my theory, I watered my empty smurf tank with the locking cap fastened. Water got in as if invited by a gardener!

Some locking caps are actually more open. Indeed I've got one. Not sure which Honda it's off, possibly a Hawk or Super Four. More recent ones all appear to be a much tighter fit, possibly tight enough to resist water ingress. I'm attributing this to Honda also figuring out what the cause of rusty tanks is.

My solution is twofold. I'm applying for a visa to visit So-Cal with a view to finding a nicer climate for my little Honda. And while I'm waiting for the CIA guys in Barkley Square to perform their checks, and I obtain my TSA vaccinations, I'm going to add a dohnut shaped sponge to that recess to catch the water ;)

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I lived in South Florida for most of my young/early adult lIfe.....and everything............"I MEAN EVERYTHING" there had mold, mildew, rust, corrosion issues....why? Because there's too much moisture in the air and materials such as rubber and metal don't like that too much.

Just my opinion but you know what they say..."with my opinion and 75cents you can buy a pack of gum".

A friend of mine died in Florida. Another friend invested half his savings in an aircraft business venture and lost the lot. Now I know what to blame for both... It was the mildew!!!!;)


Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: VintageHunter on July 21, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
if you do indeed ever make it to SoCal...be prepared for two things:
1. I'll buy ya a pint and we can talk $h!t about politics, religion and motorcycles, not necessarily in that order.
2. You may want to consider stayin' a while once you see the weather (sunshine) here ALL......THE.....TIME....just sayin'.

I like the donut ring idea. ;)
........

My solution is twofold. I'm applying for a visa to visit So-Cal with a view to finding a nicer climate for my little Honda. And while I'm waiting for the CIA guys in Barkley Square to perform their checks, and I obtain my TSA vaccinations, I'm going to add a dohnut shaped sponge to that recess to catch the water ;)

Quote
I lived in South Florida for most of my young/early adult lIfe.....and everything............"I MEAN EVERYTHING" there had mold, mildew, rust, corrosion issues....why? Because there's too much moisture in the air and materials such as rubber and metal don't like that too much.

Just my opinion but you know what they say..."with my opinion and 75cents you can buy a pack of gum".

A friend of mine died in Florida. Another friend invested half his savings in an aircraft business venture and lost the lot. Now I know what to blame for both... It was the mildew!!!!;)


Title: Re: New bike a Republican? (aka my bike doesn't lean LEFT).
Post by: RVFRick on April 06, 2018, 01:43:36 AM
The problem and them some have returned 8 months later  >:(

Since this thread went off topic toward the end I started a new one here http://www.hondacb1.org/forum/index.php/topic,5612.0.html

This thread is now locked.