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Author Topic: Dash and CeeBee went to Circuit Zandvoort  (Read 876 times)
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« on: August 12, 2017, 01:41:17 PM »

Did another trackday a bit closer to home. A track well suited to a 400 I think.

Was more instructional than at Brno so we had to ride behind a marshall in groups of 5. Was still plenty of pace and we learned a bunch. Gonna go back to that track soon I think.

Our Marshall was riding an FZ 750. Nice to see another oldie being put through its paces.

Pictures might follow depending on the quality.

For now, here's the link to the footage (3 sessions filmed, each session consists of 2 clips):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCE9lPA3yxE&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/aBHoLFii_sc

https://youtu.be/gq32jwunCaQ

https://youtu.be/P_gVoh-qXGQ

https://youtu.be/1bdMZRbe9J0

https://youtu.be/MbhX3tXpFDk
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 04:00:28 PM »

Looks like a nice day out Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 07:13:53 PM »

Did another trackday a bit closer to home. A track well suited to a 400 I think.

Was more instructional than at Brno so we had to ride behind a marshall in groups of 5. Was still plenty of pace and we learned a bunch. Gonna go back to that track soon I think.

Our Marshall was riding an FZ 750. Nice to see another oldie being put through its paces.

Pictures might follow depending on the quality.

For now, here's the link to the footage (3 sessions filmed, each session consists of 2 clips):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCE9lPA3yxE&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/aBHoLFii_sc

https://youtu.be/gq32jwunCaQ

https://youtu.be/P_gVoh-qXGQ

https://youtu.be/1bdMZRbe9J0

https://youtu.be/MbhX3tXpFDk

Indicated top speed of 115, but judging by that last gear change, you seem to have some higher gearing (smaller rear chain wheel?), so I'm guessing you may have been going faster Dash. Rice ride. Great circuit isn't it?
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 05:30:28 AM »

Did another trackday a bit closer to home. A track well suited to a 400 I think.

Was more instructional than at Brno so we had to ride behind a marshall in groups of 5. Was still plenty of pace and we learned a bunch. Gonna go back to that track soon I think.

Our Marshall was riding an FZ 750. Nice to see another oldie being put through its paces.

Pictures might follow depending on the quality.

For now, here's the link to the footage (3 sessions filmed, each session consists of 2 clips):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCE9lPA3yxE&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/aBHoLFii_sc

https://youtu.be/gq32jwunCaQ

https://youtu.be/P_gVoh-qXGQ

https://youtu.be/1bdMZRbe9J0

https://youtu.be/MbhX3tXpFDk

Indicated top speed of 115, but judging by that last gear change, you seem to have some higher gearing (smaller rear chain wheel?), so I'm guessing you may have been going faster Dash. Rice ride. Great circuit isn't it?

I haven't changed the gearing. Nor did the previous owner far as I know. So Im pretty sure im running the stock gearing.

It's a great track. I love it. Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 06:53:42 AM »

Looks like a fun day out - I did warn you that doing track days is quite addictive
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 10:41:52 AM »

Looks like a fun day out - I did warn you that doing track days is quite addictive

Next one, 30th august, has already been booked  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 09:25:29 AM »

Here's a photo from the sessions at Zandvoort. Nice to see the body work has improved a bit since Brno. Still need to tuck in way more with the upper body though.



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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 07:02:41 PM »

Here's a photo from the sessions at Zandvoort. Nice to see the body work has improved a bit since Brno. Still need to tuck in way more with the upper body though.





Classic shot Dash. You're really going for it there. Post a pic of the precious owner too Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2017, 01:53:01 PM »

Getting real tired of people telling me to get a bigger bike with more HP blah blah blah...

So, I bought this t shirt since I can't be bothered trying to explain it to HP horny simpletons any more.

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2017, 04:45:16 PM »

uhh....don't listen to anyone. Just tell em to go Fk off.....and be done with that.
Seriously....I have family members who believe in that same psychosis....that if you don't have anything above a 1200cc PIG, you have a scooter............and I say, FK EM to all of them. They have no concept of what its like to ride a small displacement bike and ride it well...............NOT A CLUE.

enjoy the Cb1........she's a great little screamer.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2017, 03:12:11 AM »

Totally agree VH. The husband of a nurse who tried and failed to fix by finger, turned up at the pub one day on a Harley. I'm sure head an asshole when he's driving his Audi or BMW, but on his hog he assumed the mannerisms of an American biker, and three the bikes spec at me as one would. To make matters worse, he was wearing designer faded denims and a leather waistcoat (best). It was all I could do not to burst out laughing. He's in his mid 60s!

Now, when I was 26, I borrowed a '59 T-Bird and cruised around town playing Springsteen on the deck very loud, with the barmaids and waitresses from the American diner I was promoting, hanging out of the windows trying to get us all arrested! I had a good excuse for showing off the three and a half acres of american steel, revving that big V8 and burning rubber at the lights. We had a lot of fun.

But even then I didn't disparage those who drove smaller cars. It must be a penis envy thing.

uhh....don't listen to anyone. Just tell em to go Fk off.....and be done with that.
Seriously....I have family members who believe in that same psychosis....that if you don't have anything above a 1200cc PIG, you have a scooter............and I say, FK EM to all of them. They have no concept of what its like to ride a small displacement bike and ride it well...............NOT A CLUE.

enjoy the Cb1........she's a great little screamer.

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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2017, 05:55:13 AM »

hehe, yeah... Grin

Fun bit of a 400 is being able to rev the **** out of it without going 200+ KM/PH. I doubt you could even rev a 600 hard at all times on a track like Zandvoort.

Im gonna try and keep the bike above 10k at all times next trackday. After checking the footage of my last outing I noticed I still let the revs drop to 6-7k at times. That's a big nono. Cry
I reckon if I can keep her above 10k at all times, Ill pick up some speed overall as well.

So 2 'goals' for the 30th:

- upper body position more low down and next to the bike
- don't let her fall below 10k revs Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2017, 05:05:30 PM »

hehe, yeah... Grin

Fun bit of a 400 is being able to rev the **** out of it without going 200+ KM/PH. I doubt you could even rev a 600 hard at all times on a track like Zandvoort.

Im gonna try and keep the bike above 10k at all times next trackday. After checking the footage of my last outing I noticed I still let the revs drop to 6-7k at times. That's a big nono. Cry
I reckon if I can keep her above 10k at all times, Ill pick up some speed overall as well.

So 2 'goals' for the 30th:

- upper body position more low down and next to the bike
- don't let her fall below 10k revs Grin Grin Grin



I know this little CB likes to be rev'd but.....can you/should you really keep the revs at 10K the entire time you are on the track? My stupid logic would seem to tell me that it'll eventually blow up that motor, eventhough its "meant" to rev high...doesn't mean it can withstand being at high revs...........ALL THE TIME. Just my logic but what do I know eh.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 07:31:47 PM »

Should be able to stand a lot of high speed running VH. But as you say, it will shorten its life whether its stressed or not. Though most wear occurs when the engine is cold, so short joirnets are worse.

Excessive engine wear also occurs when the oil is degraded. As someone pointed out, these engines not only share their engine and gearbox oil, but those cam drive gears break down the lubricating properties far faster than a chain.

But I think Dash is changing the oil regularly. Before each track day would be best.

So, a refil of really good quality high temperature oil before each session will go done way towards mimicking the regimens of race teams. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2017, 07:35:56 PM »

I suppose if you are changing out the oil everytime you put the CB1 on the track, then I guess thats all you can do. That and regularly checking of all mechanical parts maintenance.

I'd love to witness first hand a tear-down of those motogp mechanics as they swap out a bike after a grueling race.........I'd love to have a video of that surgery.
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