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« on: June 10, 2019, 08:10:41 AM »

There are thousands of stories in the naked CB-1 City. This is one of them: (sic)

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Honda-CB/303175055083?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649

Rare Honda CB1 naked sport bike. Only imported 2 years to the USA. 16,112 miles. Inline 4cyll, 399cc, liquid cooled, 13,500rpm redline! Hey! Here's a un1qu3 n3rd fun fact, it is the ONLY 1989 with the Vin ending in 1337! (if you're unfamiliar with the term "leet speak" or "1337 speak" see the link below because if you win? You will have bragging rights for life! Remember that (Pi * 1337% =42)

More info 1337:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

"7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15."

More info: review over the 1989 Honda CB1:

 https://raresportbikesforsale.com/small-package-big-fun-1989-honda-cb-1/

More info: basic history and statistics:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB-1

Has an aftermarket Micron exhaust (installed by me 25+ years ago) , aftermarket sprocket (+2 teeth), after market variable dampening and rebound rear shock (penski) , stage 3 dyno jet kit (installed by me 25+ years ago) New gell battery (1 year old and kept on a maintainer since) . The helmet lock mechanism is missing and there is a 1/2" tear in the seat vinyl! The Bike has been stored the last 12+ years in a garage. The bike is not in riding condition, it WILL START ON STARTING FLUID. READ ON:

Done since acquiring the bike:

I removed the tank, drained the fuel left in the reserve portion of the tank, *the fuel was NOT treated with Stabil 12 years ago! , the tank has rust contamination. I rinsed it with some 97 octane gas then added a bit more gas and some fuel system cleaner in hopes of getting some SUCKED into the fuel system to start loosening any varnished fuel in the carbs. BEFORE attempting to turn it over I removed the plugs to check condition (used but not contaminated, burned, or showing any sign of damaged) I also lubricated the cylinders with fogging oil prior to attempting to turn it over, gave the carbs a shot of starting fluid and hit the starter, I can verify it fired on starting fluid and raeved smoothly up to 4,000 or 6,000 rpm when I held the throttle open and then settled into idle for 20 or 30 seconds after I let off from the squirt of starting fluid, the vacume system appears to be intact as the throttle slides all retracted when the throttle was held open. It would not turn over on fuel from the tank afterwards and I did attempt to turn it over 3 or 4 tries then decided to involve a professional motorcycle mechanic in bringing the bike back to life.
 I'm assuming the fuel filter will need replaced, (I have one that will be shipped to the winning bidder, or delivered to the bikes location with the title at the time of pickup) the center stand NOT on the bike, I purchased a set of 4 aftermarket turn signals due to the damaged one on the front of the bike, a motorcycle fuel tank rust sealer/converter treatment from Germany, a 12v to female USB for charging phones that wires to the battery, a waterproof handlebar mounted cell phone holder (will hold a Galaxy note 9 or other larger cell phone) *I ALSO HAVE THE STOCK EXAUST BUT WILL ONLY SHIP AT THE BUYERS EXPENSE SEPERATE FROM THE STAND AND OTHER GOODIES* unless I'm able to meet the buyer at the time of Pick up and will bring it to you*

 Other than needing the carbs cleaned up and re synchronized, the tank cleaned and sealed, and I recommend a full and professional safty inspection before riding it,1 of the hand grips is partially turning into jelly and is in need of replacement, the fuel pump rubber mount broke when I was checking the fuel lines for cracks (they are ridged and dangerously brittle in my opinion, I THINK I replaced 1 hose with automotive fuel line, but perhaps I just reinstalled the OEM hose) and to blow through the fuel filter and will need replacement.

Cosmetically the tank has a slight dent in it and the paint could use a buffing to restore the shine and depth of the finish, the aluminum is showing signs of age and has slightly oxidatized, but could easily be brought back with a bit of polish and elbow grease. The tires were new the season prior to being put in storage, they appear new and still have nubs, but are older compound materials compared to the skins of today, and are certainly NOT to be considered ready for hard cornering! The center stand is off bike and will be delivered or shipped separately. If you look you will notice there are 2 HIGH Output STROBE led bars on either side of the rear mudflap I added with the intention of using in place of the aftermarket turn signal hardware I have as well. Also to be included is a G-force sensing microprocessor "flasher circuit" that goes inline with the rear break light, it blinks 4 times then goes solid on when breaking AND  blinks FASTER and 8x under moderate breaking before going solid on, and EVEN FASTER for 16x on-off cycles under hard breaking before going solid on. It IS capable of being custom programed for each conditional setting as well. (fancy Hu?)

 Bike can be viewed by appointment in Chesterfield Missouri 63017, approximately 10 minutes from the Chesterfield Mall, with 24 hour advance notice only please.

The title is physically in central Illinois where I am, along with the extra parts and pieces, the bike is at my parents in Missouri.

The title is still held by the 2nd owner who I personally rode with when she acquired it in the early 1990's, she and I swapped the Exaust, added the stage 2 dynojet carb kit, installed the shock together in our 20's she relocated to California (2002) and had the sprocket swapped, replaced the tires, and rode it until moving back to Missouri where it went into storage until last year when she was preparing to move overseas and offered the bike back to me since her, I and it, go back to our teens when she replaced her Suzuki gs 250, I rode a gs450 that used the exact same ignition key as hers. After another a year of storage since acquiring it I unfortunately find myself in the awkward position of being approaching my 5th decade, and in carrying around 120# more "ME" than I did back then! I hate to part with my youth, and one of my favorite bikes of it, but this is meant for a much lighter rider, and is best ridden by one's who's reaction times are fast enough to exploit / enjoy Wink the capabilities of this motorcycle. There is not, has never been, another bike with the combination of nearly race track performance and a low seat height for those with a 30.5" inseam ever mass produced for the US market that I know of.

You will need to be VERY determined and patient to locate another CB1 in this condition with similar milage, many of these bikes were modified to an unreliable death, parked outdoors to a cosmetic death, wrecked then rebuilt from other poor condition used bikes, repainted, or otherwise molested.

If you want a BONE STOCK COLLECTOR SPECIMEN this is NOT IT.

But it is a REMARKABLE addition to any collection, a bike ready to revive and ride for decades to come.

I GUERENTEE if you don't crack a grin that will make your cheeks hurt every time to wrap your 30 year old naked sport bike past 13,000 RPM on the way to readline 3 times on your way past 90mph? Call me, I'll buy it back next year and save it for my grand kids! "

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https://imgur.com/6EfJekK
Put it in the Penske File, austinpowers.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 03:08:46 PM »

Yeah the copy is terrible but the bike looks pretty nice. If I didn't already have 3 CB-1's in various states I would be down for another trip to MO to pick this one up.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2019, 05:21:19 PM »

The Devil in Miss Jones is named for her French exhaust pipe.
https://raresportbikesforsale.com/1989-honda-cb1-400/
Two other prominent features of note are the fork oil stain that's been running down her left leg for at least 9 years and the codpiece sized scar disfiguring her gas tank. Lesser marks of the devil are missing passenger pegs, missing front frame covers and a missing bolt off the right side cover.

She was up for sale in August 2010 in Lake Geneva Wisconsin at $1850 with 10,976 miles euphemistically listed as "only 10k".
Her tach problem and need for fresh tires were mentioned though the spooge running down her leg was ignored. (Doug, the writer cataloging this CB-1 for raresportsbikesforsale.com noticed the filthy stain.




  


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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2019, 05:58:00 PM »

Miss Jones kept her head down for eight years before showing up on Milwaukee eBay in September 2018.
They say it's not the years; it's the mileage that will age you. But, although eight years only came with a light load of 150 miles per annum, she was much worse for wear.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Honda-CB-/142930979063?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

In 1200 miles "bad" Miss Jones lost her spark, had her carb tubes tied, let her mascara run like Tammy Faye Baker to reveal an ugly bondo patch underneath, and developed a crack in a frame mount.
As  "good" attributes her owner listed new fluids including the forks. I assume since no mention was made of new seals she simply went dry and was topped off. The 8 years crusty and dry rivulet still ran its same course down her stubbly left gam.
Another "good" were the tires, replaced in 2010 - dated week 09 of year 10. He boasts of "fresh tread" but advises to replace them due to 8 years of age. Is it "good" that your old tires are pretty when you have to spend $300 to replace them?
She was fought over by two hobos and sold for $530. They were both zero feedback hobos so of course the sale fell through.
A month later a second auction was held and the worn out trollop was bought for $622.




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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 02:25:06 PM »

The Devil in Miss Jones wouldn't stay down for another eight years. Only six months later (March 2019) she showed up for sale in Poughkeepsie, no cleaner, but somehow valued at $1000 more. I'm sure that's an esteem booster for the old girl.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Honda-CB-/233169807952?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
-same VIN as the Milwaukee eBay auction-

Somehow she lost 100 miles - down to 12012. Botox?
Do botox and bondo mix? Like bleach and ammonia.
She still doesn't run and her frame rust spots and broken motor mounts are no longer important but she is "rare", "super rare" and "has a large following".


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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2019, 03:00:32 PM »

The eBay link says reserve not met and zero bids. But clicking on [ 0 bids ] shows several bids that were cancelled on March 20 four days into the auction with bidding having reached $570. The same bike was listed on Hudson Valley NY craigslist starting on March 16 with 12,000 miles for $1600. https://motorcyclegraph.com/hudsonvalley/honda/cb1
Whomever owns Miss Jones at the moment would you please wipe her fork leg? Nine years is a long time for a lady to leak. She is super rare and desirable ya know.


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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2019, 03:42:30 PM »

The Missouri Elite failed to meet reserve for its first, 10 day auction.
The second auction was for 3 days without a reserve.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Honda-CB-/303186936936?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
It sold for $898 which is $439 less than the $1337 I was told was too low for a Buy It Now.

The good news is: these broken and neglected and deformed "super rare, unique, collectible" CB-1's are not bringing in the riches their owners/flippers speculated. So when good ones come around the values won't be inflated for those of us who actually want to RIDE a CB-1.


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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2019, 04:15:37 PM »

The Artist Formerly (and currently) Known as Prince rode a purple CB400 in Purple Rain.
https://www.chapmoto.com/blog/2016/04/21/the-bike-only-a-prince-could-ride-a-quick-look-at-the-purple-rain-bike/

I call this little beauty Prince Charles because it's purple like Prince and ugly like prince Charles.
https://modesto.craigslist.org/mcy/d/modesto-1989-honda-cb-1/6912368325.html

The purple fender is just a rattle can away from being smurf blue again. The dented tank is a nice battle scar that keeps the price down. But the awful magenta bar end is maddening. Magenta is not red! Cyan is not blue. These aftermarket do-dads clash, they don't enhance. The real Prince would never make such a fashion faux pax. Neither would the real Prince Charles.

"Oil and filter change" along with brake flush and valve adjustment are listed under the heading Major Maintenance done.
Makes me wonder what's less minor than an oil change.

chain lube
peg lube
brake & clutch levers lube
inspect crankcase oil and fill
tank gas-drip wipe
brake dust whisk-away
gauge (clocks) dusting
tire pressure check and adjust
coolant check and fill
bar end lube and lambaste
headlight de-bug
battery level check & fill OR Tender-ize if sealed

chain slack adjust?
wash & wax?





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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 04:21:40 PM »

eBay auctions stick around for a few years after they end. The pictures attached get a little wonky though.
But Craigslist ads are lost to the ether when the auctions are taken down.
A picture catalog of old CB-1 Craigslist ads would be a helpful archive.


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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2019, 10:11:04 PM »

I rode a 450 Hondamatic once. You had to keep the throttle pinned at all times just to keep up with traffic. Made the CB-1 feel like a Hayabusa in comparison.  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2019, 09:19:18 PM »

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/d/1990-honda-cb-1-cb400f-blue-fast-low/6918494109.html

$3400 seems a bit high considering all the damage, 3 years outside soaking up the Bay fog (and warding off the notorious North Beach brigands), and the salvage title. Even for a "rare and sought after bike". Even in San Francisco. And it's smurf blue, not mythical blue.


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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2019, 09:29:24 PM »

My kingdom for a cyan bar end.


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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2019, 09:43:26 PM »

How much of an insurance payoff did that toxic salvage title come with? $3400? Less.


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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2019, 10:05:30 PM »

18,882.8 miles isn't "a bit over 18,000 miles". It's 117.2 miles away from 19,000 miles.
What are the dates of manufacture on the "practically new" Pirelli Diablos?
What maintenance service was done? When?


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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2019, 06:06:10 PM »

The nerve of some people...Will say anything to sell a 1.  I have said it before, it i see a 1 for sale, and the description is  bogus, i will say so...
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